The history of testers and developers working together is a bumpy road. Throughout the evolution of software development, testers have struggled to be treated as equals and developers have lacked the understanding of why they should care. Yet some teams do it well - both roles have a good experience and the resulting software benefits from the different perspectives.

In this podcast, Franziska and Maaret speak to Matt Wynne to share some tips on how to improve this in your team.

Shownotes

CukenFest London, April 19th-20th. Join us for our annual conference focused on building stronger ties between business and IT. Keynotes from Dan North and Ulrika Malmgren. More details on our event page.

Book recommendation - Thanks for the feedback, Douglas Stone and Sheila Heen. Buy on Amazon

Mob programming podcast w/ Woody Zuill. Listen on Soundcloud

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